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Elysium Capital Review [2021] – 100% Brutally Honest Review From A Real Member

Elysium Capital Review 2021
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Elysium Capital looked like a very promising service, and I was excited about it when I first invested. However, it soon became apparent that their trading history was misleading and that they trade with very high drawdowns. I have left my original review below, but you can also follow along with my journey in various monthly updates that I post to my Youtube channel. You’ll see that my trading account was blown on both portfolios in May 2021 on ALL portfolios (Satoshi, Alpha Linea, and Pinnacle).


I’ve tested many MANY copy trading services over the last 15 years, and most of them turn out to be a bust. Some platforms are very well known (such as eToro and Zulutrade) and others are less well known, but they all share one thing in common – they simply aren’t very good! Check out my Youtube channel to see how most of my reviews are warning people of low-quality products or even scams in this copy trading arena.

Elysium Capital looked very promising initially, but they failed to deliver what they promised, and personal experience was total losses on the portfolios I invested in.

Please watch my original review of Elysium Capital here, but also make sure you check out the update videos lower down the page so you see how my account moved into losses…..

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Latest Update (February 2021)

Here is my latest update on Elysium Capital. I’m currently experiencing very high drawdown on 2 of the portfolios. The videos below document my journey and the shape fo my investments through January and February 2021.

In this video I show my resutls after 3 months of investing. Unfortunately, whilst the balance on my account has been ticking upwards, the equity has been moving further into drawdown, so I’ m currently in a negtive position (if I were to close all my open trades). I think it’s important that people understand the way the trading works with this platform, hence the reason I show inside my connected trading account.

In the below video, I show my latest results as of February 2020….

June 2021 Update – My Elysium Capital account has now been blown – almost 100% losses on both Pinnacle and Alpha Linea portfolios. Here is the video update for May where I discuss it further……

What Is Elysium Capital?

Elysium Capital are a Fintech company that create and develop (among other things) forex trading bots, also known as EA’s. They have used these bots for their own trading for a number of years, but in 2020 launched a public service to allow investors to copy and benefit from the profits being generated from their bots. For investors, Elysium Capital therefore offers a MAM account with a regulated broker. This means that investors can open a private account in their own name with the 3rd party broker, connect to the Elysium Capital MAM, and copy all trading activity (buying and selling) automatically into their account.

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Elysium Capital are not a securities company, and your money is not sent to them to be traded. Those that wish to benefit from their trading results simply are simply connecting to their trading bots via the third-party broker, who are regulated by the JSC and the FCA. At no point will funds be sent to Elysium so they remain within the full control of the investor (via their broker account) at all times. This means investors always have instant access to their funds and can withdraw at any time (although the broker may take a few days to process a withdrawal). Once connected to the Elysium Capital MAM, your account will be run completely on autopilot, with trades being opened and closed automatically in your account. You do not need to do anything with the account to maintain the signals or trades. The only action you may want to take is to withdraw profits or deposit additional funds, but essentially no action is necessary once you are following a strategy.

Elysium Company are based in Sweden, where they have 17 staff, including experienced traders, bot developers, and support staff such as sales and marketing managers.
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Trading Strategies

Elysium Capital currently offer 3 trading strategies that can be copied via the regulated broker. They also have a 4th strategy (focused on bitcoin trading) that will be added to their portfolio soon. The current strategies are;

Pinnacle Portfolio – this is their longest running strategy, which has been running for almost 10 years. It is a trend following strategy using 12 indicators, 2 of which have been developed by their inhouse team. The total return (compounding) since inception is reported as 1592.79%, with an average monthly return of 2.5% per month and very good Max drawdown of just 15%. I’ve been able to verify their recent trading activity is accurate (from July 2020) according to their data sheet, but not the full trading history. Minimum investment amount required to copy this strategy is €1500. Full data sheet on this strategy is available here.

Alpha Linea – This is quite a new strategy, having started in May 2020 trading major currency pairs. Since then it has performed very well, averaging 7.13% per month returns (compounded gross return) for investors and max DD of 17.48%. The minimum investment is €600 making it very accessible to smaller investors. Full data sheet on this strategy is available here.

Aurum Digital – This is a precious metals trading strategy, trading mostly gold but can also trade other commodities such as silver etc. This strategy has fantastic performance, with a total return of 11171.10% since inception in January 2019. However, it is the most volatile trading strategy and has the highest max DD of the 3 strategies (51%) as well as having suffered quite large losses (see the trading history). I would consider this to be the highest risk portfolio based on past performance, but it also has the highest average monthly returns to date. Minimum investment amount is €3,000. Full data sheet on this strategy is available here.

Each of these strategies is very different in terms of both what and how they trade. The great thing about how the MAM operates though is that you can copy as many of the strategies as you like, with any amount you want (as long as you meet the minimum amount). Therefore, you can copy just 1 strategy or you could copy all 3. More cautious investors might put more money into the more stable strategies, whereas those with a higher risk appetite might go bigger into the Aurum Digital strategy, where there are bigger monthly swings.

You can also easily compound your wins simply by leaving them in your MAMM trading account. Your trade size will be adjusted automatically based on your account balance.

Risk & Warnings

Whilst we consider Elysium Capital to tbe genuine (i.e. not a scam) the trading they undertake is high risk and they offer no capital guarantees. Your money is therefore at risk. Also, they way they report the monthly/annual returns we believe to be somewhat misleading. They show the gross return of closed trades in their fact sheets, without showing the open trades. In my experience with the trading so far, I am often carrying large losing trades in my account, meaning my acocunt can be in negative equity even though the numbers reported by Elysium Show profits. I explain this in my monthly update videos above.

Charges & Fees

In case it isn’t clear, the returns you see on the strategy sheets are net returns that have been awarded to investors. There is no monthly subscription cost and no fees for investors with Elysium Capital. Elysium Capital make all of their revenue by taking a share of the profits generated each month (50% of profits). This profit share covers all of their operating costs, including the referral program. They therefore have a strong incentive to generate profits for investors as this is where they derive the majority of their income.

The broker also does not charge a subscription fee for the MAMM and there are no fees for depositing and withdrawing (unless your bank or card processor charges their own fees).

About The Broker

In order to participate in the Elysium Capital copy trading service you need to open an account with their approved broker. The broker is Equiti Group – They are a regulated broker who operates in many countries around the world but NOT the USA.

Although you are copying the trades of Elysium Capital, your account is with Equiti and therefore you deposit and withdraw through their platform. I have found them to be a good broker so far, with good support and an easy to use dashboard.

How To Join

You can participate in Elysium Capital by applying to join on their website by clicking here. They will guide you through the process of opening an account with the broker and getting you connected to their copy trading MAM. It took me about 24 hours to get the accounts opened, verified, funded and connected and the trading started almost immediately after that.

Weekly Live Webinars

Elysium Capital host live webinars 3 times per week that anyone can join. These webinars cover different topics, from how to get involved, each of the investment strategies, current performance (and open trades), and the opportunity to build an income (for those wanting to build a team). These webinars are often hosted by the CEO, Fred Stege, so they are an ideal way of learning more about this business and how it works. You can attend the webinars simply by registering an account by clicking here, and you will be invited to the webinars once you have an account. You do not need to verify your account, or open and fund a broker account in order to be invited to the webinars, so why not register your account and attend a few of these webinars so you can learn more about the business even before deciding whether or not to invest?

What Is Elysium Network?

Elysium Network is the promotional arm for Elysium Capital, where people can become affiliates, or Introducing Brokers, and promote not just Elysium Capital, but other fintech products and services too.
This is a great business opportunity for entrepreneurial individuals, especially those that enjoy using these services themselves and want to build an additional revenue stream by promoting them within their networks. You do not need to be regulated to promote these products and services, and they are very easy to promote. In fact, Elysium Network have done a lot of the heavy lifting for you already, by providing the full product suite that can be purchased online in seconds with no requirement for buying and holding stock, and by providing free webinars to potential investors and IB’s. Promoting Elysium Capital & Network can be as easy as inviting someone along to one of the webinars and letting the company take care of the rest!

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I appreciate that promoting these services is not for everyone, and for those that simply wish to invest in the Elysium Capital MAM without making any referrals then you can absolutely do so without any pressure to bring in new people. The returns are fantastic for investors and as a standalone investment opportunity it is one of the best I’ve seen.

For those would be interested in joining Elysium Network and promoting their services then feel free to contact me to discuss it further.

To join my team in Elsyium Network please go here –

Get Rich Slow

The CEO of Elysium Capital, Fred Stege, has extensive investment experience and understands that the way to build wealth is to do achieve consistent returns but look to do so over a long period of time. Get rich quick schemes never work, and that is absolutely not what Elysium Capital is trying to achieve. In fact, Fred has a great phrase of “get rich slow” which he regularly uses in the weekly live calls. This is the mindset of both the owners and ideally their investors too. There are significant sums of money to be made with both Elysium Capital and Network, but everyone involved should take the long view and achieve the returns they want over a period of months and year, not days and weeks.

Negative Reviews

There seems to some of negative reveiws circulating for this company. I’ve read these reviews, but they seem to completely misunderstand what this company is offering and how it operates. Perhaps something has changed since these reviews were written, but what is very clear is that none of the posts I have read speak from a position of authority by having tested the platform for themselves, so it’s perhaps little wonder that they reach the wrong conclusions.

Much of the negative sentiment on these blogs focuses on 2 areas; 1) The fact that Elysium Capital does not have a securities license, and 2) that the referal plan (Elysium Network) is a ponzi scam. Those that have tested the service understand that such allogations are false. Whilst I can’t make any guarantees about future earnings or ongoing profits for investors, I can say with 100% certainty that these 2 allogations are false. Firstly, Elysium Capital is not a securities company, so they do not require a securities license. You do not need any such type of license to offer copy trading via a MAM. The investor doesn’t have any kind of contract with the signal provider in this scenario – the agreement is between the investor and the broker.

Secondly, Elysium Capital don’t accept the deposits from investors and this is how I can say with 100% certainty that it’s not a ponzi scheme, as some sites claim. The investor sends funds to a third party broker where they maintain full access to funds and with immediate access to withdraw should they wish to do so. Anyone that understands the nature of pyramid/ponzi schemes will understand how it;s impossible for such a scheme to exist unless the platform is receiving investors funds directly (in order that they can redistribute new funds as “profits” to other investors).

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Frequently Asked Questions

What Is The Minimum Investment?

The strategy with the lowest entry requirement is Alpha Linea, with a minimum investment amount of €600. This means you could follow this one strategy with just €600, but of course you can invest more into this or any other strategy (there is no maximum investment).

Can I invest From USA?

No. Unfortunately the broker (Equiti) is not regulated for US investors and therefore this opportunity is not available to those living in the USA.

What Countries Are NOT Accepted?

United States, Belgium, Canada, Singapore

What Is The Minimum Term?

There is no minimum term, and investors have instant access to their funds. However, Elysium Capital ask investors to be patient and invest for the long term. It can take a while for investments to gather momentum and often the strategies are managing some losing trades using hedging, which can make open trade positions seem like they are losing, yet all of a sudden they will jump into profit. Investors with a long term mindset can happily sit through these periods of fluctuating equity whereas those that panic and withdraw funds often suffer losses that might otherwise have become profits.

Can I Access My Money?

Yes, you can access your money and withdraw at any time via the 3rd party broker.

How Do I Know This Isn’t A Ponzi Scam?

The ponzi scam works is that investors send their money into a platform, where the money is pooled and profits are paid out to investors from new moneys coming in. Elysium Capital never take control of anyone’s money, and the returns they provide have to be genuine because they are shown live with the approved broker. It’s therefore impossible for Elysium Capital to be a ponzi scam

What Are The Risks Of Investing in Elysium Capital

Although I can say with 100% certainty that Elysium Capital is absolutely not a pyrmid scheme or a scam, the returns generated from the MAM are derived from CFD trading such as forex and commodities, which carried a high degree of risk. Even though Elysium Capital have a strong track record of profitable trading, losses can still be incurred, and your capital is therefore at risk. You cannot lose more than you deposit, but no one can completely rule out total losses.

Keep in mind though that should large losses occur on one strategy, that will NOT impact funds invested in other strategies. Each strategy has it’s own separate trading account, so if you suffer heavy losses on one strategy, there’s a good chance that the other 2 will still be profitable and in this way, spreading funds between the different strategies offers a good way to mitigate some of the risk of total losses.

I Have Seen Bad Reviews Of Elysium Capital How Do I Know They Are Legit?

Most of the negative reviews about Elysium Capital and Elysium Network are completely false. All of the negative reviews I’ve seen are completely unsubstantiated and should not be taken seriously. They have either been conducted without even testing the service first-hand, or they are flat out lying about their findings. Please make sure you conduct your own research about the company and those involved in order to draw your own conclusions.

What Returns Can I Expect To Make?

Each strategy provides a datasheet of what the past performance has been. Although past performance cannon be used to guarantee future performance, you should be able to get an understanding of the risk/reward of each strategy by looking at these datasheets.

Is My Money Guaranteed?

No, invested money is not covered by any type of depositor protection scheme. Invested funds are therefore 100% at risk.

What Is A MAM?

A Multi-Account Manager (MAM) account allows an investor to copy the trades of a professional trader or system without the need to send funds into a collective fund or pool. Investors funds therefore remain in their own account, and effectively receive digital instructions of opening and closing positions in the account from the trader. The trader is analysing the markets and executing trades in their own account, and any actions taken by them are mirrored across any account connected to them via the MAM. The size of the trade is automatically calculated according to the investors account size, and often trade size is determined as a % of the available equity so that it’s proportional for all investors regardless of size of account. A performance fee is taken by the trader as an agreed percentage of the gains each month. Investors can still place their own trades within a MAM account and indeed can adjust or close trades that were initiated by the trader and so total control is still maintained by the investor.

Can I Compound My Profits?

Yes, the Elysium Capital MAM will automatically calculate your trade size based on the amount in your account and therefore compounding will continuously happen as long as profits are left in the account.

Can I Invest In More Than 1 Strategy At In The Same Broker Account?

No. Each strategy requires it’s own separate trading account. Therefore it is not possible to deposit €3,000 in one account and have access to all 3 strategies. In order to participate in each strategy you need the minimum required amount in a dedicated trading account. This is beneficial to investors as it keeps the strategies completely separate and avoids any potential high drawdowns that occur from running multiple strategies in one account.

How Much Does It Cost?

To be an investor in the Elysium Capital MAM does not have any upfront or monthly fees or costs. Elysium receive their reward by way of a profit share on trading activities.

How Much Should I Invest?

That depends entirely on your own financial situation and circumstances. There is no maximum investment amount, but minimum amounts do apply and need to be taken into consideration. Also, remember that investing in this type of trading is high risk, and you should only afford an amount that you can afford to lose. Elysium Capital also suggest that you should try to leave the funds in your account for at least 6 months in order to see a nice amount of growth and start to see some compounding, so using funds you know you will need access to in the short term is also not recommended.

Those that need a guaranteed income should also consider the risks of investing and the timeframe suggested by E.C. Most investors want to benefit from compounding their wins and growing their assets over a period of time. For those that need income, you should consider Elysium Network as a great way to build a steady and potentially very substantial income.

Which Strategy Is Best?

This depends on your perspective and attitude to risk. Each strategy has pros and cons such as higher/lower returns, more/less trading history and higher/lower drawdown. Reading the datasheet for each strategy is important and also taking time to understand how much risk you are willing to take is important. How much risk are you willing to take and what potential losses are you willing to take? If you are willing to take high losses in exchange for more aggressive trading (and potentially higher returns) then Aurum Digital probably ticks the box. For those that want to take minimal risks then a low drawdown is important, so Pinnacle or Alpha Linea might be a better choice. Remember that you can also split your funds and invest in multiple strtaegies to further lower your risk of ruin.

I hope you enjoyed this Elysium Capital review. If you have any questions please post them below.


I’m Jon, owner of Trade Wise at and
I review forex and crypto trading products and services to find the best of what’s out there for creating a passive income without becoming a full-time trader.

29 thoughts on “Elysium Capital Review [2021] – 100% Brutally Honest Review From A Real Member”

  1. I am still not exactly sure what this company does as its flagship product or service, but there are ALOT of negative reviews out there for this company. About 90% focus on the addresses shown, which apparently they say they have offices in Sweden and Honkong and Estonia but are only actually present in Sweden. I am yet to see a review focus on whether or not they actually generate returns, its all looking into the owner and how he “Lied about his occupation”.

    Jonathan, my question is, you said you have been with these guys for a while. Have you been profitable? I only ask because of the sheer number of negative reviews I have seen doing my own research on the matter. As I said though, despite the number of them I have only seen a single review actually test the profitability and even they admitted the system was technically working but “Everything else looks fraudulent”.

    • Hi Liam. You’re absolutely right to be researching the company and trying to learn as much about them as you can before making an investment, but for some reason there seems to be a huge amount of false informaton circulating about this company. A lot of what I’ve read seems to suggest that they are commiting securites fraud and that they are nothing more than a ponzi scheme. I’ve never known a MAM copy trading service be accused of being a ponzi scam before, and nor have I seen traders who offer a MAM being accused of commiting fraud for not have a securitied license, when they don’t actually need one. It all seems very strange but at least by setting up my own account and testing the service first-hand I can get a much clearer picture of what’s actually going on.
      They do have their HQ in Sweden, and they are a registered company in HK. It’s not uncommon for companies to be registered somewhere other than their main HQ, especially in the forex world.
      As regards returns, yes I can confirm that the returns I’ve had so far are genuine and of at a decent level. I’ve also verified a few months of previous trading results, and have a friend who has been invested for longer than I have, again I’ve seen their trading history and they’re making good returns. I mention in the above review that I haven’t been able to verify the FULL trading history of the long running Pinnacle strategy, but certainly their recent trading results are verified and accurate.
      The main service being offered here is the copy trading MAM, so this is why I’m somewhat aghast at how sites can be saying things like “they admitted the system was technically working but “Everything else looks fraudulent”.” – there isn’t much more to it than that! As an investor you can simply sit in the MAM and earn the monthly returns without worrying about the compensation plan offered in Elysium Network, so as long as the copy trading is “technically working” (which it is) then the service is genuine. It’s all very strange, but everyting I’ve seen and expereinced personally with this company has been positive and certainly sustainable for the long term. Happy to answer any more questions on this if you have any.

      • Many thanks for the incredibly detailed response you have certainly cleared my worries! I have done plenty of my own research on two other products you advertise as genuine and now that I have been apart of both GPS robot and Yield Nodes for some time I have utmost confidence in your reviews and how deep you actually do your research. I have already signed up at Elysium but had not yet funded the account but I guess its time to throw some disposable test cash at it and wait a month or two to see how I like it then off I go!
        If you know what the main differences are, I have noticed nearly every negative review focuses on the MLM ?? section of the company. Something about endless referral programs that inevitably collapse, none have reviewed the MAM trading at least not properly from what I have seen.
        Thanks again, I have enjoyed watching your blog grow in the past few years and am excited to be joining many of the same programs.

        • If you’re still hesitant in any way and want to get more comfortable with the company I would suggest doing 2 things. The first is to attend their 3 webinars each week because each one focuses on a different part of the business and it will help you understand what they’re about. Secondly, if your comfortable investing a small amount of funds to test the MAM then perhaps try the lowest entry level strategy – Alpha Linea so at least you only need to test the water with €600. There’s no need to rush in and invest thousands if you’re at all unsure. You’ll see how everything works by just following A.L. for a while, and if you’re unstisfied after testing it you can simply remove your funds from the MAM and walk away. It’s very straight forward with no long term commitment. I’m confident however that after trying it out most people will start to look at the other strategies and build a portfolio with Elysium over time.

          • Hi Again,

            I just wanted to ask one or two things, might help others if this is public too.

            1) Is this similar to GPS forex bot in that I need my PC on 24/7 with the MT4 platform open (Or VPS) or does the MAM trade via the Equiti broker page? The whole thing is a tad confusing where the signals are coming from Elysium, the Broker is Equiti but the platform is MT4? In summation, can I just sign up, deposit the funds and activate the MAM trading then set and forget basically, checking in on the dashboard every so often to check the ROI?

            2) Does this service have a demo trade option? I made a demo account via equiti to the sum of $10,000 fake dollars to mimick trade for about 3 or 4 weeks just to get a feel for it but this seems impossible to do with the way the “Program” is setup,

          • Hi Liam,

            In answer to your questions;

            1) No, you do not need to run anything. Once you’re connected to the MAM you can close your broker account and only need to check it when you want to see your returns/profits. It does not require the need to run MT4 or anything like that. My review video will make this clearer, but I probably won’t get round to filming it for another couple of weeks.

            2) No demo option I’m afraid, but you’re welcome to wait and monitor my progress for a few months before you jump in. I’ll be providing a summary of the trading as part of my monthly updates.

  2. Hi Jon,

    hope you had a good vacation. Just as probably everyone else reading about elysium capital, I am not 100% sure about this product. I read a lot of negative things about in online, but on the other hand, I value your opinion a lot. I will attend the webinars, but is there a way that you could provide us with some more information, like your results etc and how long you have been testing it for.

    Keep up the good work,


    • Hi Jelle,

      Thanks for your feedback. If you join the webinars you will be doing far more research than any of the negative reviews out there have, so you will be in a good position to make an informed decision based on your own findings, and without taking any risk or needing to deposit funds. I will absolutely be doing a full video review in the next week or 2, I just need to learn a bit more about how the Networking side works as no doubt people will have a lot of questions about that. They’ve also invited me out to visit there offices, which I’m keen to do if I can but the current UK lockdown is not going to help me there.
      Let me know if you have any other questions

  3. Hi,

    Great review of my personal experience with elysium capital.
    I’ve been testing the 3 portfolio’s that are active for the moment for the last 2 months. I can only say that unto know I have a very positive feel and experience with them. Great service from the broker as well helping you out if you encounter a set-up difficulty. Even at night, got on the chat asked te question and got them on the phone to help me out.

    They don’t offer a demo option, but with 600 euro to test in one portfolio what do I have to loose ??

    SO from my personal experience I can give a positive advise on this company !

    Just what I needed, some extra without the headache of trading myself, I simply do not have the time and have my own business to run.

    • Thanks for sharing your own experience with Elysium Capital so far. I think people will be reassured to see that you had a good experience with the broker too, given that this is who is actually holding our money.

  4. Hi Jon
    Firstly I joined yield nodes ABOUT 6 WEEKS AGO under you banner I believe and all is going to plan and it does appear to be one of the best investment options in that space currently so thanks for the review.
    With Elysium I understand the process and will look at a few of their webinars(after the Masters golf tournament is completed) to get a feel for the business and hopefully the operators before making a decision to invest.
    Jon do you know anything about Bitero investments ?
    Appreciate you work and the obvious integrity you display in your reviews

    • Joining the webinars is definitely the best way to learn about the company and the investment opportunity. I will also have my full video out very soon and this will tell you much more about how it works and what to expect.
      I don’t know Bitero investments, sorry

  5. Hi Jon

    I have done my own due diligence after a good friend of mine told me about the Elyisum opportunit. I also noticed that there are a lot of negative reviews online but I still have a few questions that have kept me on the sideline until now. I hope you can provide me with some answers as you can’ answer any questions during the webinars.

    The main question I have is if you know of any third-party audit that can support the claims they make regarding the profitablity of their three portfolios. I have Googled the names of the portfolios and haven’t been able to find any information about them. There’s no mention of a third-party audit being done either. I also checked Fred Stege’s LinkedIn profile as I was looking for more more information on his extensive investment experience but based on what his LinkdeIn profile says, he has a lot more experience in MLM than in investement but of course it’s always possible that his LinkedIn profile doesn’t tell the whole story. Could you possibly shed a bit more light on what his experience exactly is in the financial world (apart from his private Beaufort mutual fund which I also couldn’t find any more info about online by the way)?

    Thanks for your help

  6. Hi Jon,
    I’ve invested with Celestial Trading Tools based on a review you did quite a while ago. Do you recommend Elysium over CTT? Thanks

  7. Hi Jon….I’ve signed up for account access and am just waiting to hear about the webinars before taking it further. One question though, given that each clients money is traded in their own broker account, how do Elysium take their 50%? Thanks

    • I hope you enjoy the webinars Paul, email me if you have any questions.
      equiti autoamtically take the profit share and the returns shown on the fact sheets are NET of that cost so it’s all taken into account without any need for us to do anything.

  8. Hi Jon, I just joined you in Elysium. I have searched for the answer to my question and can’t find it.

    Do you know how Elysium can take their share of the profit?
    If they start a trade with 25 euro and the profit is 2 eur. How can they get hold of the 1 Euro?

    They say they can take the 1 Euro. But in a bad scenario. What can they take? Can they take the 25 Euro also?

    I understand that they earn money if we do. That is the reason to invest.


    • The broker handles the profit share, it is not under our control (as investgors) or Elysiums control either. Half of all profits are paid to us once a trade is closed and half is sent to Elysium. The returns shown on the data sheet are AFTER the profit share too, so still very profitable even after profit is shared.

  9. Hey Jonathan

    Your Opinion means a lot to me. But I somehow don’t get warm with Elysium.
    For example: I found a video on YouTube, where a guy seems to be able to prove, that at the located address in Hong Kong is actually not Elysium, but some other company. So why should they fabricate an address they don’t own?

    Everything else seems great according to what you say. And if the money is controlled by the broker, there is no possibility Elysium being a Ponzi.

    You said, you will do an interview with the CEO. It would be cool if you could clarify the question above about the address.

    Keep up the great work Jonathan! I value your statements very high.

    Regards Johnny

    • Hi Johnny. I know the video you’re referring to and Elysium have always said their actual office is in Sweden (I’ve had a virtual tour of it so I know it’s genuine). The HK address is their registered address – as with many international businesses it suits them to be registered in HK rather than Sweden, so I imagine they have an accountants out there in HK, or they have a virtual office arrangement with the building, but they never said they have staff there. Most large companies you can think of will have registered offices away from their main HQ. Think of silicon valley and how many of those giant companies will be registered offshore.

  10. Hi Jon

    My name is Anthony and I have a friend living in Hong Kong and she went to the address and took pictures for me of the adress and the name of the companies at that address. Can i send the pictures to you??

    • No need, thanks. The HK office is just their registered address, they have staff all over the world and the CEO Fred is based in Sweden (as he says on all his videos). I’ve had a virtual tour of the office in Malmo (they’re very nice!) and them having a registered company in HK is perfectly understandable as many international businesses have a registered company in offshore jusridictions.

  11. Hi Jon,

    I started investing in Alpha Linea at the beginning of February 2021. Today they came out with the performance for February. They are stating that the Portfolio had a Return on Investment of 0.69% after performance fees. My equity is down 95% and I will be stopped out soon with a complete loss of all my money. You mentioned in your last youtube video that they do not earn when we do not earn. As their strategy is to close profitable trades very soon with a very small profit but keep the losing trades open until your account is wiped out, they will always show positive returns and will take the performance fee.
    In my opinion this is a scam and I would warn people to invest their hard earned money in this company. They do not have Money and Risk Management for their Trading with no Stop Losses to keep the losses low.
    Unfortunately I am very disapointed in this recommendation.

  12. Hi Jon,
    I agree, I don’t think the company is a scam as others here have suggested. But, one of the strategies is actually failing at the moment and not adapted to the current market conditions. On one account I have a balance of about 1000 EUR, but an equity of only 150 EUR. That’s a huge drawdown, so I’m expecting a margin call any day now.
    The company doesn’t disclose what recovery strategy is using, so I’m not sure whether it’s worth topping up my account in the hope of a recovery. For all I know, it could be martingale, in which case a topup is a highly risky move.
    Also, it would be nice to have this drawdown reflected in their strategy description, but unfortunately, it is not.
    On a second strategy, I’m only 20% in drawdown, so that has a bit more breathing space.

  13. I invested $20k with them and after 4 months was at 50% drawdown. When I checked my account I saw they were trading gold (commodities) when the prospectus clearly states that they would trade only the G10 currencies (for their Alpha Linea product). When I pointed this out their response was:

    “Regarding the Gold trades, the setup opportunity was there for the pairing.”

    They totally admitted what they were doing even though they shouldn’t have been trading in those instruments and 25% of my drawdown was in gold.

    They are liars, reckless and are actively trying to cheat people. I don’t expect they will even be around much longer.

    Good luck!


    • Hi Mark,

      completely agree with your comment. I had the same experience. I lost my money on the Alpha Linea Strategy. In the prospect they state that they only invest in FX but they actually also take trades in commodities (which is false information and actually forbidden). I also asked them about these trades and got the same response.
      I reported them to the regulator and hope not more people put their money in there.


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